urban vegan in the new york times
Today, Omniman and I were featured in a New York Times in an article on "interdietary relationships." All in all, I was pleased [except for the hideous picture of me!]. I was glad they eschewed the earth-doggie stereotype and portrayed me as someone who likes food and who is not pushy. But at the same time, I think the article was skewed, mainly by its omissions. Our culinary life is hardly as polarized as they might make it sound. For example, of 21 weekly meals, Omniman voluntarily consumes about 19 vegetarian and 14 vegan meals. The comments are the real kicker, though. One guy called vegans the "culinary equivalent of the Taliban." Peace-loving vegans? *laugh* Yeah, right. We're gastronomic terrorists--out for blood.
I Love You, but You Love Meat
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SOME relationships run aground on the perilous shoals of money, sex or religion. When Shauna James’s new romance hit the rocks, the culprit was wheat
“I went out with one guy who said I seemed really great but he liked bread too much to date me,” said Ms. James, 41, a writer in Seattle who cannot eat gluten, a protein found in wheat, barley and rye.
Sharing meals has always been an important courtship ritual and a metaphor for love. But in an age when many people define themselves by what they will eat and what they won’t, dietary differences can put a strain on a romantic relationship. The culinary camps have become so balkanized that some factions consider interdietary dating taboo.
No-holds-barred carnivores, for example, may share the view of Anthony Bourdain, who wrote in his book “Kitchen Confidential” that “vegetarians, and their Hezbollah-like splinter faction, the vegans ... are the enemy of everything good and decent in the human spirit.”
Returning the compliment, many vegetarians say they cannot date anyone who eats meat. Vegans, who avoid eating not just animals but animal-derived products, take it further, shivering at the thought of kissing someone who has even sipped honey-sweetened tea.
Ben Abdalla, 42, a real estate agent in Boca Raton, Fla., said he preferred to date fellow vegetarians because meat eaters smell bad and have low energy.
Lisa Romano, 31, a vegan and school psychologist in Belleville, N.Y., said she recently ended a relationship with a man who enjoyed backyard grilling. He had no problem searing her vegan burgers alongside his beef patties, but she found the practice unenlightened and disturbing.
Her disapproval “would have become an issue later even if it wasn’t in the beginning,” Ms. Romano said. “I need someone who is ethically on the same page.”
While some eaters may elevate morality above hedonism, others are suspicious of anyone who does not give in to the pleasure principle.
June Deadrick, 40, a lobbyist in Houston, said she would have a hard time loving a man who did not share her fondness for multicourse meals including wild game and artisanal cheeses. “And I’m talking cheese from a cow, not that awful soy stuff,” she said.
Judging from postings at food Web sites like chowhound.com and slashfood.com, people seem more willing to date those who restrict their diet for health or religion rather than mere dislike.
Typical sentiments included: “Medical and religious issues I can work around as long as the person is sincere and consistent, but flaky, picky cheaters — no way” and “picky eaters are remarkably unsexy.”
Jennifer Esposito, 28, an image consultant who lives in Rye Brook, N.Y., lived for four years with a man who ate only pizza, noodles with butter and the occasional baked potato.
“It was really frustrating because he refused to try anything I made,” she said. They broke up. “Food is a huge part of life,” she said. “It’s something I want to be able to share.”
A year ago Ms. Esposito met and married Michael Esposito, 51, who, like her, is an adventurous and omnivorous eater. Now, she said, she could not be happier. “A relationship is about giving and receiving, and he loves what I cook, and I love to cook for him,” she said.
Food has a strong subconscious link to love, said Kathryn Zerbe, a psychiatrist who specializes in eating disorders at Oregon Health and Science University in Portland. That is why refusing a partner’s food “can feel like rejection,” she said.
As with other differences couples face, tolerance and compromise are essential at the dinner table, marital therapists said. “If you can’t allow your partner to have latitude in what he or she eats, then maybe your problem isn’t about food,” said Susan Jaffe, a psychiatrist in Manhattan.
Dynise Balcavage, 42, an associate creative director at an advertising agency and vegan who lives in Philadelphia, said she has been happily married to her omnivorous husband, John Gatti, 53, for seven years.
“We have this little dance we’ve choreographed in the kitchen,” she said. She prepares vegan meals and averts her eyes when he adds anchovies or cheese. And she does not show disapproval when he orders meat in a restaurant.
“I’m not a vegangelical,” she said. “He’s an adult and I respect his choices just as he respects mine.”
In deference to his wife, Mr. Gatti has cut back substantially on his meat consumption and no longer eats veal. For her part, Ms. Balcavage cooks more Italian dishes, her husband’s favorite.
In New York City, Yoshie Fruchter and his girlfriend, Leah Koenig, still wrestle with their dietary differences after almost two years together. He is kosher and she is vegetarian. They eat vegetarian meals at her apartment, where he keeps his own set of dishes and utensils. When eating out they mostly go to kosher restaurants, although they “aren’t known for inspired cuisine,” said Ms. Koenig, 25, who works for a nonprofit environmental group.
When they prepare orecchiette with broccoli, he adds anchovies to his serving.
Though the couple occasionally visit nonkosher restaurants, Mr. Fruchter, 26, a musician, said he has to order carefully to avoid violating kosher rules. “We’re still figuring out how this is going to work,” he said. “We’re both making sacrifices, which is what you do when you’re in love.”
Even couples who have been eating together happily for years can be thrown into disarray when one partner suddenly takes up a new diet. After 19 years of marriage, Steve Benson unsettled his wife, Jean, when he announced three years ago that he would no longer eat meat, for ethical reasons.
“It had been in my head a long time, but I could have done a better job of talking about it,” said Mr. Benson, 46, a math professor at Lesley University, in Cambridge, Mass. Ms. Benson, who is also 46, and devises grade school curriculums, said she worried her husband would judge her if she continued to eat meat, “but we talked it out and he is not proselytizing.”
Another concern was whether she would be able to cook vegetarian meals that would meet the nutritional needs of everyone in the family, including their teenage daughter. “I wanted us all to eat the same thing for pragmatic, household economy reasons, but also because that’s part of being a family,” Ms. Benson said.
So, she cooks vegetarian dinners and makes lunches for herself and her daughter that include meat. She and her daughter have “meat parties” when Mr. Benson goes out of town, she said.
“There’s this feeling that if we eat the same thing then we are the same thing, and if we don’t, we’re no longer unified,” Dr. Zerbe said. She and Dr. Jaffe said sharing food is an important ritual that enhances relationships. They advise interdietary couples to find meals they can both enjoy. “Or at least a side dish,” Dr. Zerbe said.
For people who like to cook, learning to bridge the dietary divide can be an enjoyable puzzle. Ms. James, the gluten-averse writer, eventually found a man who did not love by bread alone. On her first date with Daniel Ahern, in 2006, she told him that she was gluten-free; he saw it as a professional challenge.
“As a chef, it has given me the opportunity to experiment with new ingredients to create things she can eat,” said Mr. Ahern, 39, who works at Impromptu Wine Bar Cafe in Seattle. Ms. James said she fell in love with him after he made her a gluten-free salad of frisée, poached egg and bacon. They married in September.
Since then, Mr. Ahern has given up eating bread at home, though he still eats it when he goes out. For her part, Ms. James has begun eating offal and foie gras, which were once anathema. “We’ve changed each other,” she said.
46 vegabytes:
Oh my gosh, that's you! I was just over there reading the comments, many of which just make me want to avoid all human contact for awhile. Good god.
Anyway, I thought it was a great picture, actually, you look so healthy and put together and, well, normal, lol. Of course many if not most of us do, right, although you wouldn't know it if all you knew of veganism was what apparently passes for journalism at the NYT these days.
Eg. "Vegans, who avoid eating not just animals but animal-derived products, take it further, shivering at the thought of kissing someone who has even sipped honey-sweetened tea."
You've got to be kidding me. But again, at least they ran a great picture! :)
I made the mistake of reading some of those comments - truly cringe worthy!
That's really great for you and omniman. I think your part was the saving grace for that article.
Aww, that's so cute, you guys. My husband and I cook same as you--always two pots on the stove, of basically the same things.
Wow, congrats on being among those featured. I skipped the comments to avoid the aggravation, and thus found the article itself just a little skewed...about as much as I'd expect from a mainstream publication where the writers don't live the lifestyle they write about.
Food as romance, and a way of learning to love each another -- so very true!
I read this earlier in the day and realized it was you right away! That's a gorgeous photo of you (or, I should say, that you're gorgeous!). I've never dated a vegetarian, let alone a vegan, and I've never encountered an issue in my "inter-dietary" relationships. I know that I like my veganism to be respected, so I respect others' eating habits as well. I've found that most guys I've dated are fascinated by my veganism, not put off by it. Thank goodness!
Yeah, I saw this article from Chris' blog (eatair)... it's weird. I wish that the "reporter" had made more effort to explore the complexities and subtleties of sharing diets. My BF is also an omnivore, but he eats pretty much every vegan meal I prepare happily and without complaint. He sometimes adds a little parm on pasta, and he does like to order meat when we eat out. Obviously, I'd love if he ate meat, and I think he'd love if I wanted to go out for breakfast at the diner with him... but we have both learned a lot about love and celebrating the joys of others.
Oh, whatever-you look beautiful in that pic! I love how you say you're not a "vegangelical." I see myself in the same category when it comes to me and my omniman.
So now that you're practically a celebrity, I'll say I knew you when... :]
Great! I echo the comments- you look fabulous. Plus, a sensational advertisement for veganism - slim, healthy, and looking incredibly vibrant.
Kudos to Omni also for being relaxed. I am a transitioning vegan, and my husband would probably claim until he is blue in the face that he is a committed omni, but he actually rarely eats meat. Last week he had two meat meals in a row at friend's places, and when that was over he groaned and said to me 'can we eat vegan for the next few days? I feel so ill!'.
I was wondering what would be your wednesday's surprise... It's very funny how our blogs grow together : I've just posted few words that link to a The Guardian article refering one of my recipe. And now I read The New York Time mentioned you in one of its article. Congrats. And it's lots of fun to see you and Omniman in your kitchen. I do understand you, after having going out with an omnivore (more than that : he don't like any fruits nor vegetables, except mushrooms...) for 8 years. We could stand this difference all the more because we lived in different flats and too many times I decided not to see, not to think. This relation helped him to add some whole grains bread and salad to his menu, but he still considers vegans as angelic heretic. Seems as if Omniman is more open-minded, you're luckier.
I read that & had no clue it was you! I also didn't know you're so gorgeous! When I read the article, I wasn't thrilled, but maybe it's better than no press at all?
Why is veganism percieved as threatening by so many omnis? It turns normal, rational human beings into complete knee-jerk reactionaries as the comments section clearly shows... Great photo by the way, you're so glam in the flesh!
You both look beautiful and happy in that photo! I thought your part in the article was well articulated and demonstrated the give-and-take present in any loving relationship when there is a difference in opinion, whether it is diet-related or not. Kudos to you!
i would give my eyetooth, well hell, both of my eyeteeth, to look that smokin' in a photo. and lookie there at those dishes!
p.s. thanks, among other things, for the abba hair recommendations. a vegan salon (imagine...in a small kentucky town) just opened up and they carry their products. can't wait to try them.
i love your blog, btw. so fun. and not just about food...about all sorts of great stuff. thanks, so much for all your awesomeness!
I saw that...and thought you and your husband looked fabulous. I also think the media is blowing vegetarianism and veganism out of proportion. For most people, it's not a ruling factor in their life or relationships.
Wow! How exciting for you-- you're definately the best part of the article.
(Its news to me that most of us shiver at the thought of kissing tea drinkers who like honey...but hey you learn something new everyday.)
I think you're beautiful and that pic shows it!
How awesome to see this.. I agree they could have been less polarizing in their wording, but it's cool that a dialog has been started..
As an unrepentant Omivore, I thought the article was quite fair and balanced when they were talking about you guys! The picture of you looked great! Best argument you have on behalf of vegans is how great you look!
I lurk on your blog all the time and when i read the article, I thought it might be you. I am an omni, but because of this blog and some others that I read, i decided to try to give up meat for Lent...its going well, and my omni boyfriend is very supportive. I love your blog and all your great advice, ideas, and creativity.
Dynise, you are a great vegan ambassador. You and Omniman look beautiful and happy in your lovely kitchen!
You look fabulous! I remember once in your blog you mentioned that someone thought you were in your twenties - it is definitely true!
How wonderful that your Omniman is so flexible. My Carnivore would rather eat a frozen packaged dinner than anything I cook!
Susan
That's awesome that you were in there. That's a very interesting article.
I commend you for being able to handle your husband's diet and lifestyle. I, personally, could never date someone who wasn't at least vegetarian. It's not so much the fact that I want someone just like me (that would get boring), but more because I don't want to kiss someone with dead animal on their mouth and more importantly, I could never fall in love with someone who took the torture and slaughtering of an animal so lightly. I need to know he's going to be good to his body, too. :)
I always loved the 'vegetarians smell better' thing. I've never noticed a difference, to be honest.
By the way, your picture is awesome! You look so vibrant. :)
I thought the picture of you was kind of cute.... slyly looking back :-)
Congrats on the feature Dynise. I think you look great, and I love the haircut! You and your husband are so cute.
Gotta love the photo of your dueling pots (Le Creuset?) on the stove top.
I thought that was a nice picture! I was so glad there was a good representation of a vegan-omni couple.
Ah UV- you are the preeminent vegan rock star! I think you look cute in that pic and yes of course, the NY Times always skews the vegan pieces ever so slightly, but at least they are covering vegans.
Have lots of catching up to do. Can't wait to see you soon!
xx
how utterly (in the vegan sense) fantastic for you guys....makes me proud to blog with you even more now that you are the famous vegan/omnivores...LOL..I guess my comment "I get so hungry I could eat a vegetarian" would just be inappropriate right now...
Bravo UV! and you look GORGEOUS!
That last sentence about offal and foie gras grossed me out, but the part about you is good! Even if it is a bit skewed, mainstream attention is a good thing! With all the different couples they discuss, to photograph the two of you is a big deal!
ah, i think you look lovely, radiant, healthy! when you said "I respect his choices just as he respects mine." that's exactly how I feel about the people in my life who aren't vegan.
that's pretty cool you were featured New York Times!
great article and great picture, too, in my opinion. i love how veganism is getting this exposure - way to go being a positive presence.
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UV - you're gorgeous! I hope that when I get to 40, I look half as good as you. You're the picture of health.
Yay for being a celebrity! And thanks for representing vegans!
I can't even begin to express my disgust with the negative comments on the NY Times article - ahhh, when will the vegan-bashing end?!?! :0(
That's YOU??? How cool! I read your blog all the time, and I read that article too, but I never would have guessed it! I think you look just beautiful in that picture. It really is a good picture of you! I wasn't real happy with the comments on the NYTimes webpage. A lot seemed so hateful... reminded me of my ex really. I think a lot of tension in relationships between vegans/omnivores must come from something besides just the food. I know people I've dated have said such hateful things to me about my eating habits, and veganism in and of itself couldn't be that offensive! I'm glad you and omniman make it work!
Yay! I just wrote a blog entry about that article. Very fun read. Also, I'm not sure if you've discovered it yet but you have spurred an entry in the Urban Dictionary.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vegangelical&defid=2853735
*gasp* I didn't realize that article brought in over 230 comments! I still think it's a good sign that veganism is getting this fever pitch intensity of treatment in major media outlets lately. You certainly put an awesome face on it!
Wow!! I read the article, but I had no idea that pic was you and Omniman!!!!!! And seriously, that's a good picture of you :)
You're 42?!?! I don't believe it. You look 25! Lol. You are the picture of good health. :)
Just today while reading about Joaquin Phoenix (sp?), I happened upon your blog.
When the NYTimes article came out, my dad sent it to me via email. Just last month, I ended a relationship with an intolerant omnivore, who used my veganism as a means of describing what he felt was wrong with me. Anyway, I am so glad that you and your omniman are serving as an example of a sucessful mixed marriage.
Mine is the 91st comment for the Times article.
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At the moment I am wondering how many individuals who wrote comments actually bothered to read the article. So many responses are derogatory towards veg*ns, yet I feel the crux about the article is the mature decision partners make to accept and support one another. Before the description of the happily married vegan and omnivore, you will find the following excerpt:
[i]“As with other differences couples face, tolerance and compromise are essential at the dinner table, marital therapists said. “If you can’t allow your partner to have latitude in what he or she eats, then maybe your problem isn’t about food,” said Susan Jaffe, a psychiatrist in Manhattan.”[/i]
I have to agree with the 21st commenter who wrote that it’s all about respect and love. If you can’t find either for your partner, you are going to have difficulties with more than what he or she chooses to or not to eat. Furthermore, with so much to navigate in a relationship, ruling somebody out because of his or her diet is absolutely superficial.
— Stacy Goldberger West Orange, NJ
Not a bad photo at all, I actulaly think it is great.
The magical thing is the reaction the article got, whether good or bad comments, it is great to see people read it.
I SAW THIS and didn't realize it was you! CONGRATULATIONS!/that's awesome!
Vegangelical - ha!
I always end up dating meat eaters, so long as they don't get on my case about my dietary choices or kiss me with meat mouth I don't care!
That's some pretty awesome press! (And holy hell, you do NOT look 42!)
What a funny thing to write an article about -- "interdietary" relationships?? I'm a vegetarian, my boyfriend eats meat, so what? He knows he's not going to eat meat at my house, which has never been an issue. I guess if he wasn't an adventurous eater, it would be more difficult? Huh. Thanks for posting your article!
Hey congrats on the feature! You dun look hideous don't worry.. And thanks for this post :) very intersting!
you look amazing! a celebrity now!
im happy that you and omniman can do so well.
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